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[00:00:12] Speaker A: Welcome to man in the Arena. Today we are talking Trump cabinet picks, the Republican Senate already letting us down and cross dressing on Capitol Hill. But first reminder, you can find this podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, good pods or wherever you get your podcast. Check us out on Facebook, x Instagram and TikTok True social as well and YouTube. Ann in the Arena PC and make sure you are subscribing on YouTube. That's the only place you can find our video podcast. Now let's go.
[00:01:00] Speaker B: Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.
[00:01:14] Speaker A: I have a dream. My four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream.
[00:01:36] Speaker B: The eyes of the world are upon you. The hopes and prayers of liberty loving people everywhere march with you.
[00:01:51] Speaker A: And so, my fellow Americans, ask not.
[00:01:56] Speaker B: What your country can do for you.
[00:01:59] Speaker A: Ask what you can do for your country.
If you tuned in last episode, you joined me in a victory dance over the victory of Donald Trump and destruction of Kamala Harris political career. I told you to take a moment to sit back, relax, enjoy the victory, enjoy the tears of our enemies and take a breath of optimism as we see a new day in front of us, filled with new opportunities to save the country that we all love. Love. Well, that time is now over. It is officially time to stop enjoying yourself and get back into the fight. Because as I said last week, the left will take no days off. They will regroup and be ready to strike back the day Trump is sworn into office, if not sooner. They have already ramped up the entry of illegals into our country, pledged to fight against any deportation efforts, and have escalated the war in Ukraine. To leave the next administration in a hole seemingly too deep to dig itself out of. This is truly the work of treasonous creatures who hate everything America is supposed to stand for.
But for all of the evils of the left, at the end of the day, we know who they are. We know they are vile scumbags whose main goal is to weaken our once great nation and transform the American people into a slave class built to serve and fund their own interests. There is, however, a much more disgusting and villainous creature, possibly even more dangerous than any leftist could be. And that is our elected members of the gop.
You see, these people, if you'd like to call them people, have been the right hand man of the leftists every step of the way. Like a toady, the elected GOP congressman, senator, governor, mayor, and even city council member has Joined in with the leftists while he feverishly pummels the average American, or at least has sat on the sideline and watched impotently. The GOP has spent decades, generations, building a facade to make you believe that you have a voice. They have pretended to be an opposition party while cutting deals and pushing out anyone who moves the ball in a truly conservative direction. In short, they are the immediate threat, the henchmen we must defeat before we reach the final boss.
Trump 1.0 failed when we needed him most. He failed to finish the wall. He failed to reduce crime. He failed to stand up to Covid tyranny, and worst of all, he failed to drain the swamp. The Hope in Trump 2.0 is that he has learned his lessons and now he has the opportunity that our movement has this opportunity. We can't afford to screw it up. Trump needs to have learned his lesson, that his opposition tried to bankrupt him, it tried to destroy his family, destroy his political career, tried to lock him up, and ultimately tried to end his life.
The time for excuses is over. The time for mistakes is over. The time for 4D chess is over. This is our final hope in restoring our federal government that is truly not a government for, by and of the people. The only thing that matters now is results and defeating the enemies of liberty. Nothing else will suffice. Now let's get into today's calibration.
All right. I am joined here again today by my brother Jonathan.
[00:05:53] Speaker B: Good to be back. World War 3 has not started yet, so we get another podcast.
[00:05:58] Speaker A: And Jonathan and I, this past weekend, we saw Creed live. So we are ready. Physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. We've been rejuvenated.
If there's any sign that we can have a rebirth in America, it's been the rebirth of Creed and the regeneration of all these different fans around the country. It's just an exciting time to be alive.
[00:06:18] Speaker B: Yeah, they're really leading the charge to the return to greatness of this country. They are MAGA encompassed in a band.
[00:06:26] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. And so that's maybe the reason I truly have optimism going forward. But if you're here on the last episode with Jonathan and I, it was a very optimistic episode. It was an episode where we looked. I said, it's morning in America. Trump has won. We have a lot to be optimistic about. And all of that is still true. There's still a lot of reason to be optimistic. But now we are entering this phase where there are some crucial decisions being made that are going to dictate the success of his administration and what will be the next four years. There are some really great picks in Trump's Cabinet. This has kind of been what has dominated the news cycle over the past few weeks, has been the selections to Trump's Cabinet and positions within his administration. And obviously he came out hot right out of the gate. You had rfk, right, Being the name to the head of the hhs, which is probably, in my mind, in my opinion, the best pick so far because we need so badly to reform our health agencies. I don't know if there could be a bigger win than reforming those agencies. Maybe the appointment or the announcement of Tom Homan being the head of our. Being our border czar. He's actually, as of today, openly calling for the arrest of mayors and Democrat politicians who stand in the way of the federal government doing its job and deporting the illegals that are here illegally. So some great picks out of the gate. I thought the Gates pick was great right out of the gate.
Matt Gaetz out of Florida for the Attorney General. We're going to get into that in a little bit about that whole fiasco, but there's some really strong picks out of the gate that made me feel like we're moving in a really great direction because all of these people that are being selected are people who are hated. We need to pick who are hated, because the more hated they are, it means a greater threat that they are to the establishment that we have.
However, over the last week to 10 days, there has been this. This avalanche of really bad picks that is really making me nervous for the direction of this administration. You had the first of these being Marco Rubio, which is one that you could kind of forgive because he's somebody that's pretty well established, has a track record and a big name, obviously having run for president, but an individual who has kind of led the. Been one of those senators leading the charge to send all of our money into Ukraine, all of our money to Israel, has called for pre. You know, has called for bombings of Iran. Right. And all of these different, very hawkish policies that are really not what we need right now if we're going to return to an America first agenda. So before we get into a conversation, kind of one run through these picks kind of one by one and just go through some of these things that make me nervous, and then. And then we'll talk about a little bit. There was. Matt Gaetz was obviously nominated first to be the Attorney General and the senator. Republican senators do what they always do, which we're going to talk about and they their knees buckled when it really mattered. So we wound up getting this nomination of Pam Bondi. Now, Pam Bondi is an individual who most recently has been on the payroll of the government of Qatar, lobbying on behalf of the Gulf State and also lobbying for Amazon and a private prison giant, Geo Group during her time.
She is also well known for joining with the Democrats in Florida to prosecute George Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin case, which was a clear case of self defense and boosting the false BLM talking points. Then you have the Treasury Secretary being named in Scott Besant. Scott Besant is an individual who was the former money manager for George Soros, which is just quite frankly unbelievable that we would be naming anybody with ties to Joris Soros to any positions within the Trump, the Trump administration.
He is also an openly gay man who has essentially abducted two children through surrogacy, which is a conversation for another day that doesn't align with any of the social promises of the of what is going supposed to be the Trump campaign.
Then you have the head of the FDA that was announced the head of the FDA is going to be. There's all these picks all over the place. Marty Macarey. Marty Macarey is an individual who is very pro, I hate to use the term pro vaccine because that sounds very positive. Like I'm anti vaccine, I'm anti a lot of the things at Big Pharma. But he was very. He is an individual who is well known on the record for pushing multiple boosters onto children as soon as six months old, who is pro masking, who's pro mandate, who's pro all of this Covid tyranny. You have the labor secretary being named and Lori Chavez. I don't know if it's Dermer or Deremer. She is an individual in Lori Chavez who is pro amnesty for illegal aliens, pro the forced unionization of private sector employees has opposed school choice and expanded and supported the expanded unionization of government employees.
This has just been an absolute disaster. I'm gonna get into a couple more picks, but I wanna pause there and get a little bit of reaction and conversation going because just this in itself, before I get into what I think might be the two worst picks, this is turning into beyond rfk, beyond Homan and people like them. This is turning into a big pharmacy globalist dream team. And it's very discouraging if we're. And it's kind of almost feeling like a repeat of 2016.
[00:12:44] Speaker B: I think one of the most concerning things really is that Trump is still trumpeting Operation Warp Speed and that it saved millions of lives and all of these kind of things. And so the right, particularly conservatives on the right, are not happy about any of these things. And so I think he's fallen into this trap, which, for someone of his personality type and his track record, is not surprising. It's why we should never be worshiping people, particularly our politicians, is because they're never going to align 100% with what we need from them. But he does not want to get negative blowback for Operation Warp Speed. He wants to take credit for that. Even though it was a bad thing. Yeah, because if he says, oh, you know, it wasn't good, then he's gonna take a loss for that.
[00:13:33] Speaker A: Well, Trump is Operation Warp Speed, so that's that, because he has championed it every step of the way. To go back on it now would be to admit the. One of the biggest blunders in maybe American history, medically and politically. So he's in an impossible position, but continuing to push the lie that it saved hundreds of millions of lives, which it hasn't. It's led to. It's led to more lives lost. Right. So it's all based on a lie. And I think what Trump supporters, specifically those who are really pro medical freedom, the more conservative supporters, want to see is just back off, just stop talking about it and leave it alone. But it's such a core part of his first presidency, unfortunately, that he feels the need to, I think, surround himself with people who supported the same thing and pushed him in that direction.
[00:14:27] Speaker B: Right. And as we get into some of these people, you'll see some of them are already starting to walk back what they said before and going to the meeting now and say, well, these things are bad. When they were the ones that were at the front of the line really pushing these things and putting science in quotes, by the way, behind it, and that if you question it, you should go in a camp. These are the kind of people that are being brought into the administration, and they had a very long time. Trump knew he was running again for four years. They've had these extensive lists of people that they could pull from background checks, all of these kind of things. And so, like you said, we get these original people. The few that kicked things off were great. The RFK is the home and all, and you get the excitement built. And then all of a sudden. And by the way, this is widespread across social media, the hatred of most of these picks from the right. This is not just us talking about this, this is pretty widespread. Other than the people who don't want to question Trump because they want access, but other than that, you're really starting to, I mean, again, the word concerned is. We still have to kind of wait and see. But when you see the resumes of these people and you see their past quotes and all these things and what they've done as a job, there's a lot of major questions that have to be answered. And it does not look, at least at this stage, that there have been enough lessons learned.
[00:15:50] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think, unfortunately, the problem that we run into is if you make any kind of declaration now of this is not moving in the right direction, you say, oh, you're just a pessimist, you're black pilling. You got to trust this process. None of our politicians, including Donald Trump, have earned any of my trust. I'm not going to place my trust into any politician. I'm going to be extremely skeptical of every single move every politician makes until we get out of this mess. Because I've been, we have, not just me, all of us alive today have been burned almost every single time by every single politician ever that we've ever voted for, without exception. So why should I now all of a sudden say, oh, we just gotta sit back and trust the process. That's what got us in this mess to begin with. And I'm really tired of that talking point because it is an absolute, it's an absolute antithesis to how we are supposed to behave in a republic and in a free society and how we're supposed to think and act. And if anything, we are supposed to treat our politicians like low level employees.
[00:16:57] Speaker B: Well, they forget that they work for us and we forget that they work for us. And you know, to me, the medical freedom one is going to be big. And to any of you who are listening that live through 2020, which is all of you, is that recognizing how horrendous that time was and that we can't even dip our toes back in anything that aligns with what happened during that time. And so you see all these people on the health side of things, they're running the total opposite to. So RFK's team is actually really upset. RFK hasn't spoken himself about it, but they are really upset.
They're out there saying these are the specific. We've given them lists of people to pick from and they're not even interviewing those people. And so to me, that's a problem where if we're gonna make America healthy again, and that was part of the excitement, why so many people were choosing to vote for Trump was they were getting RFK and his promises of what we do with food and agriculture and all of those things. And all of a sudden now the people we're lining up on the health side of things are on the total opposite end and they're basically enemies. Then how are we gonna be able to move a well aligned policies forward?
[00:18:05] Speaker A: Yeah, and I want to stay focused on the health portion of this. So there is just, there's two more individuals I want to specifically get into. Sebastian Gorka is one who is an individual that you've probably heard on the radio or podcasts or anything like that. He has the very intense accent, but he's been named the Director of National Security Policy at the White House. And there's a video of him that you can go look up. I'm not going to play it right now, where he says that if Trump's going to make the aid to Ukraine that's happening right now, which has been in the hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars, look like peanuts, and that is there can be no more discouraging a notion that we're going to increase aid to Ukraine at this point, where it just become a meat grinder of destroying their future as a country being bought, their land being bought up by BlackRock and this whole scheme that has taken place with just these young men in Ukraine and Russia being treated just as these human cattle. That's a whole conversation we get into. But I want to focus on the health side.
[00:19:07] Speaker B: Can I make a note though real quick about Ukraine and this specifically? So you're getting Marco Rubio, by the way. And I don't know if we'll go back to him or not, but he started, he was rated 96% his first two years in Congress as a senator. He's now in the 60s, his mentor. He gives John McCain his, the credit for being his mentor. He's somebody that's close to Lindsey Graham. And so during COVID we had a ticker nonstop on the television that told us how many people were dying. Obviously it was, they were.
[00:19:42] Speaker A: It wasn't true on cnn it was that Deep Purple.
[00:19:46] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:19:46] Speaker A: It was this the scariest graphic that when it looked like something out of, out of a bad movie. Right. Something that possibly, it couldn't possibly actually be on.
[00:19:55] Speaker B: And it was there constantly to show you how many people were dying. We don't. Nobody is telling us how many people have died, how many Ukrainians, how many Russians have died. But it is in the hundreds of thousands. There are videos of Ukrainian men being dragged out of their homes by the government to fight because they're running out of people.
[00:20:14] Speaker A: Yeah, and old men and young boys, too, because they are getting so thin.
[00:20:19] Speaker B: So you are talking about the destruction of these countries, not just the infrastructure, but the future of any existence because of humanity being destroyed in the process. So you have these people, like Sebastian Gorka, like probably Marco Rubio, where Trump is saying, we don't want wars, we don't want wars. But the people he's picking are not the people that will ever say, we don't want wars. And so how is their policy going to align with his? Are they going to just go rogue and we're just going to continue to fund? Because, you know, in Congress, they're going to be more than happy to keep writing checks because their stocks are. They make money in the stocks that they've purchased by war.
[00:20:56] Speaker A: Well, and you know exactly how this is going to play out, too, and exactly how they view this is they view us here in the United States as a tax farm, obviously. That's why when we talk about immigration, we talk about the fact that we don't matter as a people, we're interchangeable, as long as we're being productive in some capacity. They look at this situation the exact same way, where they can destroy, literally kill hundreds of thousands of people, wipe them out, wipe out an entire race of people in that region of the world, and they can have all. All of these investment firms go in, ship in about, ship in 500,000 Africans and just start working the land again. That's the way that they view this, is they don't view people as minds, bodies and souls. They view them as milking cows. They view them as tax dollars. They view them as a hamster on a wheel, in a sense. And as soon as you start viewing people like that, it's just a game of chess to these people, of how do we generate the most doll?
In this case, it's been the most obvious and disgusting form of this new world that we're living in, this globalist regime that will literally throw people into firing squads to achieve their ends.
[00:22:17] Speaker B: Well, you just look at everything now, and as a society, we really started to fall away from looking at things through the lens of good and evil. And it's just outcomes, right?
[00:22:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:26] Speaker B: It's what we talked about previously, which is when you look at immigrants that come in this country legally or illegally, whether they pay taxes or shop at Walmart or they get to work the dirty jobs. And dirty being in quotes, right?
[00:22:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:41] Speaker B: Because all of these jobs are important to our society, but limiting them almost somebody, a very left wing person was on the news and said, well, who's gonna clean your toilets? Donald Trump saying basically that immigrants, all they're good for is cleaning toilets and picking fruit.
[00:22:56] Speaker A: Because that's how they view them.
[00:22:57] Speaker B: Right. So none of these people, when you talk about good and evil, they don't. These people as people, they view them as tools to their ends. So whether it's war, whether it's how many needles they can stick into the arms of human beings injecting their non tested products, or whether it's all these things that we're talking about, the people that are in charge of us do not care about us and they would rather have us die than them lose power and lose money and lose influence.
[00:23:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, in the, in the spirit of sticking untested products into the arms of the public, I want to shift over into what is in many people's view, including my own, the worst pick of this administration so far, which is Trump's surgeon general pick, Janet Neshwat, who is an individual who has a long history of saying a lot of things. But I want to play a couple quick clips here that illustrate the type of person that she is.
[00:23:59] Speaker C: First of all, vaccines save lives. And I am so excited and I thank and I commend Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg for taking action because this affects everyone. This affects our children, it affects adults. We just look at the recent measles outbreak, the biggest outbreak that we've had in decades with measles. And that's no joke. Measles can cause brain inflammation and pneumonia and ear infections and hearing loss and death. So it's about time that they are taking action. And I hope and pray that other social media platforms will follow suit and do the same thing.
Strict law that might be passed, a bill that might be passed. But as a doctor, I'm concerned for safety. I'm concerned. Are we going to see an uprising, back alley abortions? Am I going to see young teenagers trying to involuntarily hurt themselves by trying to self abort their fetuses out of fear and not knowing what to do and not having alternatives?
[00:24:55] Speaker A: Okay, so this is an individual, obviously, who, if you just saw these two videos and you're a Republican, you're a conservative, you would, you would just assume that this was a CNN contributor, right? You would just assume that this is, this is a doctor who's not really A practicing doctor who's just an individual that they bring on one of these talk shows to just affirm what these hosts are saying.
This is an individual who is a regular Fox News contributor who is now going to be the new surgeon General of the United States in all likelihood. And this is an individual who not only was pro vaccine, okay, not only was pro warp speed, was not only pro mask mandate, was not only pro keeping kids out of school, was not only pro lockdown or pro all of these Covid tyranny things, that would be one thing. But this is an individual who was pro social media platforms, Twitter, Facebook, you name it, censoring any kind of oppositional information to the government approved narrative.
On the second video you saw these. This is an individual who is obviously pro abortion to some standard, but echoing all of the same lies that the pro abortion lobby has been for decades, that none of these things are happening in any case where there's any kind of limitations on abortion. She's echoing the leftist narrative. So my first question is how does this person even enter the equation where they're considered for this position? And second, how are we going to spin this in any way outside of this is a bad pick because I've gotten heat from different people for coming out on this pick and other picks for being somehow anti Trump when I come out and say, no, we shouldn't have an individual who is pro censoring information on social media that they don't like.
[00:26:41] Speaker B: Well, she's been the one that's been out there, one of the couple that have really been focused on trying to fix her image. So she was out recently saying, holding up one of those paper masks that we were forced to wear for so long and saying, oh, these don't work. Yeah, these don't work. She was the one that four years ago was pushing that crap on all of us and saying, your kids need to wear this. She talked about needing to wear a mask outside while you're walking alone. This is a lunatic. This is a person who is not a scientist. This is a person who in quotes is doctor because she passed enough tests. But as the lead person in a country that is trying to get healthy, a person who was a part of the group of people that were pushing for us to do things that were anti science, anti health that are now going to cause long term the consequences of COVID and particularly the shots because they're not vaccines. Vaccines are things that actually cure you or keep you from getting things.
[00:27:38] Speaker A: Keep you from getting something.
[00:27:39] Speaker B: Yeah, these are shots and so we. We don't even know what the consequences are, whether it's infertility, the turbo cancers that we see now that are continuing. Right. All these kind of things. This is a human being that pushed those things to the highest degree, but then at the same time saying anybody who disagrees should be removed from the public square. Not even allowed to speak.
[00:27:56] Speaker A: I'd like to see if she has one of those tweets that every single Democrat politician has where I've contracted Covid. I don't have heavy symptoms, but I'm blessed to. I'm very thankful that I got my shot and was boosted. Right? It was. Every single Democrat politician got Covid, like, eight times somehow and got evidence. Every single booster. I'd like to. I like to comb through her Twitter history at some point to see if she has one of those out there. But there is also another video of her out there. Remember those extremely cringey and infuriating TikTok videos of the nurses dancing? Right. It was. And she's gone on several videos in tweets and videos, saying, the ICU beds are filled. This is a dire situation. We can't get people in the hospital. This and that. And then you'd have all these nurses.
[00:28:39] Speaker B: None of which was true.
[00:28:40] Speaker A: None of which was true. Filming these TikTok videos where it's like everybody's dying, but we're gonna get. We're gonna take a 15 break or hour break to memorize all this choreography and do some dances that nobody asked for in the first place. That was one of the more disgusting things, was these nurses dancing around while you are on the outside of the glass building looking at your mom dying by herself. And, I mean, so much of what happened is completely unforgivable. And. And I've had people come to me, whether it's with this person here or many of the individuals who are on the COVID train and say, well, people change information, change all these different things. And that's true. And I would encourage anybody who comes to a different point of view or gets new information to say, okay, I was wrong. But that doesn't mean we need to take that person and elevate them into a position of power. And that's always my frustration with Republicans is we do this with everybody. We take somebody who was wrong 15 minutes ago, and all of a. Comes around and says, oh, no, I was. You know, you guys were right the whole time. You say, oh, yay. Why don't you be a new congressman? Why don't you? Why don't you become the Surgeon general, why don't you become this? Instead of saying, okay, that's great. Welcome in. Do your time for a while, and then maybe we'll consider you down the road when you have a proven track record. I'm just really tired of this whole infatuation with, we need to bring in all of these people and immediately elevate them to positions that they wouldn't have had otherwise. And under the guise of, well, people change. That's great. That's true. I've changed my opinion on things. I've evolved on different issues. But that doesn't mean you take somebody who is your enemy five minutes ago and then put them in your inner circle.
[00:30:27] Speaker B: No. And I would say, too, there were other people, like the medical head of the state of Florida. Right. Who worked in hand in hand and he wanted the job. Right. And Florida, obviously, was the preeminent example. They were a little bit rough at the very beginning of it, but they learned quickly and adjusted.
[00:30:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:47] Speaker B: I went to Florida during. In 2020, and it was like being in a different country than being in other places. Right. And so this couldn't. You could have picked anybody. Yeah, right. I think that's what it comes down to is for so many of these people that were picked, you could have picked anybody, and the people that you're picking are. So it's not like you had to dig to find some skeletons in these people's closet. They were in your face, showing you what they believe, showing you what they think of the people that voted for you.
[00:31:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:16] Speaker B: And now it's. It's. You know, the slap in the face is a term that's a little overused because they're not actually slapping us, but it's a total disregard for what the voters voted for. And so now you have the Matt Gaetz side, which the people who voted for Trump probably would have loved. Matt Gaetz, but it's like, oh, a few RINO senators who are destroying our country are like, oh, no, I can't vote for him. But then we'll get the person who, you know, wanted to shut down the First Amendment for anybody who disagreed with her. And they're gonna be like, they're gonna cheer and vote for her unanimously.
[00:31:46] Speaker A: Yeah. And I'm glad you brought up this Florida Surgeon General, because he has been incredible since COVID on everything, just nailing it one after another. But he was brought up as somebody who. I think if you had polled most people without knowing anything, most Republicans, they would've said that's a no brainer for this position. But what actually I saw when I was looking at some of the debate online and some of the more prominent figures about him being the Surgeon general is there are a lot of people who came out and said, well, he's more loyal to DeSantis and DeSantis isn't loyal to Trump. And I wanted to punch my phone screen because this has been so infuriating for so long about, well, this person isn't loyal to Trump. People will literally say DeSantis is a terrible governor when he's the best governor of our lifetimes by far. He has nailed every single issue. He has gotten more done than any governor. But they will hammer him and say he's not loyal to Trump.
Who cares that he ran against Donald Trump because he felt he could be a better president? Who cares?
If you can make a case of why he's been a bad governor, then make the case. But if your biggest hit on somebody is they haven't knelt down to Donald Trump enough, then you are part of the problem. You can be fooled and tricked by anybody because your job as a citizen is to call balls and strikes, is to say, this is a good policy, this is a bad policy. This is a good move. This is a bad move. It's not to say, who are you loyal to? Because nobody owes loyalty to any politician. That is something that is done. And a monarchy. That is not something that is done in a free republic. You owe loyalty to your country. You owe loyalty to the Constitution. You owe loyalty to your family, to your loved ones. You don't owe loyalty to a man you've never met. You don't owe loyalty to a president. You just don't. And it goes to this whole deeper discussion that we've been having for so long of anytime Trump does something that, like, I criticize these picks, I'll praise Trump like I have, I'll criticize him like this. And people will come out and say, well, he's just, he's playing 4D chess. You just don't understand. Right? Or he's putting these people into positions because he's going to expose them. That was my, that is the most frustrating argument to me is like, he's going to bring these people into the spotlight to expose them. And I remember experiencing this when I ran for Congress. My opponent, who has turned into one of the worst congressmen, worst Republican congressman out there with one of the worst ratings, as was the most predictable outcome, there were people who were supporters of mine, who are huge Trump supporters, And obviously he knew a lot of them who would say, well, maybe Trump endorsed him to expose him. And they would say this with a straight face, looking at me, and I would say, I would think to myself, I'd be as polite as possible, but I think you're giving somebody a job or you're giving somebody an advantage that they didn't have to expose them. They said the same thing about Mike Pence. People would say, well, hey, they exposed Mike Pence, didn't he? He was vice president for four years. He wasn't gonna be vice president unless he was selected by Donald Trump. He would have been some obscure politician who went away. But because Donald Trump picked him, he became vice president, became a very prominent political figure. It wasn't to expose him. It was because it was a bad pick. It was because it was a bad. Not everything is this interstellar inception level decision. Sometimes there are just mistakes that are bad choices and we need to call them out. And maybe in certain cases, if there's enough pressure by us, the people, we can get certain things like this reverse. But instead we just go along with it because we say, oh, there's things that he knows that we don't and that's what's going to continue to lose us ground moving forward.
[00:35:41] Speaker B: You have to be so careful about this vantage point of looking at these people again as saviors, looking at them as these, you know, infallible people.
[00:35:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:54] Speaker B: Because ultimately they're just human beings. Yeah. They may have certain information that we don't have. But look at it this way, let's think back to 2012. Okay. We get Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan.
People are crying at their rallies, the hope of what they're going to bring.
I'm going to be the first to admit that I fell into that trap at that stage in my life in really being like, oh, this is the person we're going to beat Obama and we're going to take America back and all this kind of stuff. Well, they don't win. And then what do we get? We get Paul Ryan blocking Trump's agenda for two years.
You get Mitt Romney, a senator in Utah who could have been a senator for California or New York or Connecticut, these people, they need to be held to the fire. And so whether it's Trump, whether it's J.D. vance in the future, whether it's Ron DeSantis, whoever comes down the pike, if we just accept things because you say, oh, I love this guy. No, if you love your child, you correct them when they make mistakes. Because you're trying to. But it goes back to what we already said, which is these people work for us and we only get so much time to impact. And this is one of those opportunities that does not. Trump should be dead.
His head should have been blown off his shoulders at that rally in Pennsylvania, but it wasn't. And so those are the kind of things you look at and you say you feel there is even, he says, divine intervention, all these kind of things. Whether or not that's true, it's the fact that this is one of this four year span that we may never get again. And so the people that you surround yourself with, every single one matters. And if you miss on one of these essential ones, they can overturn every other aspect of what you're trying to achieve.
[00:37:45] Speaker A: And to your point, there were literal books written. I remember there's this famous cover of this book called Young Guns. Have you ever seen it? On the COVID about the next generation of conservative leaders that has Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor and Kevin McCarthy on the COVID as they're like there were these mastermind conservatives that are going to save our republic. And these were the Tea Party guys, right? That was a massive movement, the Tea Party movement. But the problem was it was all based on taxes. Right?
If you base an entire movement on tax policy, it doesn't have much meat to it at all.
But to your point is we have held up people now that we look at as scum of the earth individuals or the worst rhinos of them all.
Not that long ago we were singing songs about him, writing books about them, and now here we are in the trouble that we're in. I think that's a good segue into talking about where we are at now in the U.S. senate.
We can talk all about how there should be a greater advantage in the US Senate than there is for Republicans. When you look at the vote counts of the sketchy things that have gone on in Michigan and Arizona, in Wisconsin, there are voting problems out there that we need to address. And that's a conversation maybe once California finishes counting votes, which they still haven't, we can have that conversation, which is just so infuriating. But you have a GOP controlled Senate. And I want to first have us all envision and remember what a Democrat controlled Senate looks like. A Democrat controlled Senate gets done whatever it wants to get done done. It pushes through whatever it wants to push through. It wins, it wins, and it wins some more. But we don't have a razor thin majority. It's going to be 5347 majority, and we are already struggling with trying to get certain individuals, the votes to be confirmed. Matt Gaetz is the biggest example of this. We talked last episode before the Senate selected the majority leader, and we said it needs to be anybody else besides Jon Thune. Well, obviously, we could have probably predicted it was going to be John Thune, because the Republican Senate has a habit of picking the worst possible people to head its operation. John Thune is one of the least conservative. You look at his voting record, one of the least conservative members of the Senate or the House. He's an absolute disaster. And again, one of those senators from a deep red state that has every opportunity to primary these individuals but never do so again. We can complain all we want about the rhinos at any level of government, but the worst rhinos are from Texas, are from the Dakotas, are from these deep red.
[00:40:28] Speaker B: Oklahoma.
[00:40:29] Speaker A: Oklahoma. Right. You can say all you want about Lisa Murkowski or Susan Collins, and they're terrible, but at least they have kind of an excuse. They're from. But, you know, like Susan Collins is from a blue state, a solid blue state. So you can, at least as terrible as she is, I wouldn't forgive her or say she's doing a good job or anything like that.
She's somebody who can. You can kind of have an excuse for. You can have an excuse for a Jonathan or a Corrin or any of these people or what we've had here in Ohio for so long with Rob Portmans and different things like that.
But Matt Gaetz was a great pick, in my opinion. He was a great pick because he was an individual who has nothing to lose personally. He's an individual who's been dragged through the mud and ultimately cleared of any wrongdoing, doing. He's an individual who most of his colleagues in Congress, Republican colleagues in Congress hate, which is another good sign, because most Republicans in Congress are terrible congressmen. And he's an individual who could really be a just let the dog off the leash situation. He's an individual who's gone after congressmen on both sides of the aisle for the insider trading. He's gone after people for a variety of reasons and somebody who, who I don't think he's perfect in any regard, but is somebody who would be a reformist, a true reformist. And when you look at all that, that's ultimately the reason that he couldn't get the votes in the Senate. But what's frustrating is that at the first step of resistance from these senators, we backed down and said, shoot, we can't do it. We can't get these senators on board. Instead of figuring something out, to me, you're not going to get anything done. If you're going to depend on the senators, the Republican senators to do it for you, they are going to be a hindrance to you. You have to essentially treat them as you can get on this ship. You know, you can either get on this train or get off the tracks, essentially.
And this is another sign that I'm just getting a little tense moving into this administration that's going to take over in January, that we're not. We don't quite have the mindset we need to have to get done what we need to get done.
[00:42:45] Speaker B: Well, we also don't want to have this governmental system where everything has to be done via executive order. Yeah, right. So you're running up against this wall where again, if you only have four years to get things done, and let's say if things follow the cycle they normally do, and you only have two years of both houses now, maybe that changes because there were some major shifts that just happened in this election. So who knows? But let's say things stay the way they normally do and you only have two years. Right. If you're going to be blocked in even one of the two houses of Congress, then all of a sudden it falls back on. I'm just going to do all of these executive orders. But that falls outside of what ultimately we want, too, because you could say that's great. Well, no, it's great when it's your side doing it. It's not great when Joe Biden showed up on day one and opens the border, because with the sign of his pen when he goes in and all of a sudden somebody says, well, we're just going to legalize all these illegals that are here on day one with the pen without any type of process happening.
[00:43:46] Speaker A: Well, you know, the Democrats are going to do it anyway, regardless of what you do. But the biggest problem with Trump governing via executive order, which unfortunately is probably the reality of what's going to happen, is that the moment he's out of office and loses to a Democrat, they can wipe it all away. That's the biggest threat to governing that way. And you look at the second half of Trump's presidency when he didn't, he, the only thing you can really say he got done with a Republican majority, a Republican controlling all the chambers, was he got some tax cuts.
That's all you can really say because there was nothing done On Obamacare, there was nothing done really on the border at all. He couldn't even get the funding for the wall when he had a Republican majority. Then in the second half, when you were dealing with the Democrat controlled House, the only thing that was done legislatively was the First Step act, which was absolute, is, was and is an absolute disaster that has let more criminals onto the street and has contribute to the crime wave that we have seen over the past four to six years and beyond. So you're correct that they're not going to be able to accomplish anything as soon as they don't have that majority. But to accomplish anything now, they're going to need repo. You're going to have a slim majority in and you're going to have Lisa Murkowski, you're going to have Susan Collins fighting you every step of the way. You have Mitt Romney 2.0. I can't even remember the guy's name out of Utah, who's, who's the new senator out of there again, Utah, a deep red state that continues to elect these same types of people. But now you have Susan Collins, right? You have, you have, you have Susan Collins being named the chair of Appropriations, which is one of, if not the most powerful position that you can have in the Senate. You have Mitch McConnell being the head of the Rules Committee. So everything is being set up already to hinder any kind of America first agenda. And you had people like Susan Collins, like Lisa Marcosi, like Mitch McConnell, like any of these politicians that are, that are saying that any of these senators, they're saying that I will pose Matt Gaetz or anybody like him. They are the same people who voted to confirm a dude, a morbidly obese dude wearing a dress to be our health director in the United States. And they were talking about, about Matt Gaetz is not qualified, but they'll vote for, they support him. They support Mayorkas, they support any of these, all of these individuals that are currently in the Biden administration. So it just goes to show.
[00:46:18] Speaker B: It.
[00:46:18] Speaker A: Doesn'T matter if these people have R next to your name. Like I said in the monologue, these people are more of a threat, have done more damage to our republic than any Democrat ever could because under the guise of being a Republican, they have dragged us further and further left. Left while masquerading as an oppositional party.
[00:46:39] Speaker B: Well, nothing changes until the voters change. I mean, that's really what it comes down to. And so, you know, we again, we spend so much time complaining and Congress, this has been said 5 billion times. But I'll repeat it again. Congress has a single digit approval rating.
[00:46:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:53] Speaker B: But guess what? When it's time for reelection or when it's time for a primary, the same person wins Every single time 95% of the time.
[00:47:00] Speaker A: Incumbents win their primaries 95% of the time. And the really, the only ones that ever will lose their primaries are individuals who, you know, like individuals who voted to impeach Donald Trump. That was one issue. Right. I ran against Anthony Gonzalez. I jumped in that primary. Primary to primary Anthony Gonzalez, he was, he was all, all board on the COVID tyranny. He was one of the biggest spenders. He was one of the biggest supporters of sending all of our money overseas. He was one of the, had one of the worst voting records in Congress. From a Republican, Republican standpoint.
If I would have, if anybody would have ran against him without the Trump impeachment vote, he would have destroyed them. It wouldn't have mattered that he had one of the worst voting records. What matters is that he voted to impeach Trump. Right. So that was what I kind of tried to explain to people throughout the campaign, was that we need to go a little bit deeper than you voted to impeach the guy that I like when in reality that was the least of the bad things that he did while he was a congressman. So you have all of these individuals like Susan Collins being propped up, and until they do something, God forbid, against Donald Trump, they're going to be there as long as they want. So there's a lot of people who say things along this line, but nothing will change until the GOP senator or congressman, the GOP elected official fears their primary voters more than they fear their donors, more than they fear the special interests. Because. Because the voters, the threats that we hear for primaries and all these things, it's a laughing stock among these politicians. They don't care. They're not afraid of you, and they won't be until you make them afraid. And a democracy, a republic like we live in, it thrives on politicians having a healthy fear of their constituents, which they just don't.
[00:48:48] Speaker B: Well, that's what you just mentioned on social media. How many people, in response to the stuff that's going on, are like, oh, we're gonna remember In November of 2028, you know, we're going to remember this when, you know, and I just envision these senators, they don't even see these posts, by the way, but I just envision them just laughing and I ha, ha, ha. No, no, because if you've really paid close attention, you see the patterns, and you recognize that these people, it's not even. They don't even fear. It's that they just know that they're a shoe in barring some sort, especially in the Senate, barring some sort of. Like Oklahoma, for instance. I mentioned that every single county of Oklahoma is red, but they have James Lankford as their congressman or as their senator, who is a total scumbag. He is a Democrat. And under the guise of, you know, I'm for you. I'm for, you know, bright red Oklahoma.
[00:49:48] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:49:48] Speaker B: Okay, Oklahoma. Guess what? You know how you get rid of this guy? You vote in a primary. It's not that hard. The problem, again, becomes in these primaries is. So, for instance, in your primary, you had to have. Your opponent had to pay 2.1 or $2.3 million to beat you in a primary because he didn't even live in the district.
He moved into a $650,000 house or condo about six months before election Day. He never leaves the House, except for a couple little things. He goes down to Mar A Lago, raises some money. He comes back, he sends out 15 mailers in the last week and a half. Half. And he wins.
He didn't do anything to earn it. He has no background or, you know, other than a criminal one, to which that's not even a joke.
[00:50:37] Speaker A: Well, I mean, at the end of the. We got, you know, I was outspent 30 to 1 in that race. And I, you know, you. You go through that experience and you start talking to people, and you're getting, you know, months and weeks up to the election. You start talking to people who are in concert, you know, Republican circles. And I start talking to people and they're like, why haven't I heard of you yet? And they would say it to me as if I had done something wrong, as if I hadn't been campaigning for a year and a half, going everywhere and anywhere. And I guess one of the big things I learned through that experience is not just. It's not just the voters being the problem, but that's the core of. We have failed as a voting base to hold people accountable. But when I started to meet with these big Republican donors and these individuals who make the financial circles, Ron, what you realize is those individuals, Individuals they have.
They are completely turned off by any individual who is a threat to the status quo, because a change to the status quo changes the power structure. So the way the power structure is set up right now in the Status quo is that these individuals, they hold the vast amount of power with their financial, the financial power that they hold. As soon as you change that and get the voters start getting more involved and people start educating themselves and you change the financial structure of things, all of a sudden they're kicked further and further out of that circ. So they don't actually want anything to change. So they are incentivized to support candidates who will support that status quo. So I think the biggest question that we kind of have to ask ourselves is we've talked about these appointments, we're talking about the Republican Senate that is already letting us down, that is already moving in the wrong direction. A lot of these things are moving in a direction that, like, I've seen this movie before, right? That's kind of the feeling that I'm getting. Again, all of this could be much to do about nothing. And we could wind up just seeing an absolutely epic Trump presidency. There's lots of reason to be optimistic. And I'm not telling anybody to say, just, just put your head down and say it's over before it even started or anything like that. I'm just saying that we need to always be on alert, essentially. But let's say that this goes the way that it feels almost like it's heading, that we head for round two of 2016 or worse, that there's no America first agenda initiated after these four years.
The border hasn't been fixed, the war is abroad, things are still going, our money's still going, all of these different places, we haven't pushed any kind of conservative social agenda, that everything is still moving to the left at a record pace. And then if we're in that situation, we're probably looking at it, a Democrat president come in 2028. So if that winds up being the situation and the situation that we almost fear, and again, I'm not sounding the alarm just yet. This is a conversation we need to have. Now, though, the question that I start to ask is if we can't, if Trump almost being killed, like you said, if all of this huge culmination of this huge seismic moment in American history, this huge shit shift to the right in all 50 states, voting wise, and this huge mandate from the people to do all these things, if that doesn't get the federal government where it needs to go, if that doesn't push our politicians where they need to go, can you see? Because I cannot, I cannot see a future 50 state United States of America because if the federal government cannot be fixed, I'm not saying it's going to be fixed in four years, but can't start moving in the right direction now. I can't see a scenario where it does. I can't see a scenario where if it doesn't move in the right direction in 2024, it starts moving in the right direction in 2032. Right. I don't see that as a legitimate possibility. So if we can't get the federal government straightened out, then where does that leave us as a nation that is incredibly divided politically and ideologically?
[00:54:39] Speaker B: I mean, a deep red Florida can't exist with a deep blue California without some sort of centralized but good governmental structure.
[00:54:49] Speaker A: Right.
[00:54:50] Speaker B: Because that's what keeps those kind of forces at bay. At a certain point, you run out of the opportunity to bring us together. Because even California, when you see their massive shift in numbers towards Donald Trump and towards the right, it doesn't move a massive state like that, but there are massive numbers. There are a lot of people in these states that are desperate and can be impacted by so many of the great things that are going to be done where ultimately, if you succeed in these four years, those numbers are going to increase because they're going to see the proof.
[00:55:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:55:25] Speaker B: You know, you had a lot of. It's hope. It's hope. Hope only does so much. Right.
[00:55:30] Speaker A: Only lasts so long.
[00:55:31] Speaker B: Right. At a certain point, the action has to happen. But like you said, we already have, we've had states like Oregon, Oregon that they want, some of them want to secede from Oregon and join Idaho. Right. California had tried to push an initiative where northern part or that California is going to be split into multiple states.
And so that I think is the more likely first scenario, which isn't this total separation of the country, but there are specific states that start to split themselves. But at the same time, if you have one centralized government for all of those that still is. Isn't doing the will of the people and is actively in most cases working against their best interests, then it doesn't really matter how you split because then it turns into, okay, well, the people that are telling us what to do. It turns into a much greater level than the Boston Tea Party, which is these people don't care about us, they're not working for us, and we need to do something drastic.
[00:56:22] Speaker A: Well, let's look at Florida or Texas or some of these deep red states. Right. Texas wasn't viewed as much of a deep red state, but it looks like it's actually moving deeper red. Surprisingly, despite the immigration problem that they're that they're facing.
But a state like Florida, when they're moving in the direction that they are as a state where they're thriving, right, they're extremely pro freedom. People are extremely happy there. People are thriving financially.
It's just a good place to be right now. When you look at a state like that, if things continue to move in this direction with the federal government, where the federal government is essentially looting these states, right? Coming in and taking their money, sending it overseas, they're shipping in illegal immigrants without the approval of the states and planting them in different places. They're coming in with these different regulations, all these things. Essentially, you get to the point where these states are going to have to say, what is my incentive to go along with this? Right. If I'm Texas and my federal government refuses to enforce my border, then I have to enforce my border. And if I'm going to enforce my border, what am I paying the federal government for? And you're. I think a situation that you could start to see arise is a lot of these states, or at least some of these states or even counties or towns start to say, we're going to stop taking any money from the federal government. We're going to start financially cutting ourselves off and we're going to start making our own rules. Right. The Democrat Party has done that or the Democrat states and localities have done that. They just haven't gotten punished when Republicans have been in charge. Right. Because there have been, you know, Democrat cities obviously, in states have said we're a sanctuary city, we're a sanctuary state. They have openly defied federal law, but the federal government has continued to give, give them, give them money. But I'll be interested to see a scenario where if this goes this direction, I would be shocked if you don't see at least some local communities start to say we are cutting ourselves off and we're going to start fortifying our own communities while the rest of the world is falling apart.
[00:58:28] Speaker B: Well, I think the point that you made about what so many of these red state leaders, again, leaders in quotes, are doing is that I think this is a time too, particularly with the immigration issue, the illegal immigration issue, is that it's time for these people to be punished for what they've done. And so you get, once Trump won, it was like, let's come together.
I know that there was all this lawfare against you, President Trump, but you get to put a stop to this.
[00:58:56] Speaker A: It's like the snake slithering.
[00:58:57] Speaker B: Yes. But guess what? This is the time to Punish. Because it's time to set the tone for what comes next, because these four years of Trump will be over. We need to grease the skids for a J.D. vance or a Ron DeSantis presidency after these four years. And what comes next? Because these four. It's got to be more than these four years. But at the same time, you have, like, the mayor of Denver that says that he's going to, you know, he's going to bring citizens out to defend these illegals and protect them. Okay, guess what? We're walking. He's going to prison. That's it. You have the.
[00:59:27] Speaker A: You're going in the paddy wagon with him.
[00:59:29] Speaker B: Yeah, right. We're putting you in there.
[00:59:30] Speaker A: We're sending you to Rwanda.
[00:59:31] Speaker B: And then in Maryland, you had. Say that the. One of the mayors there say, we're gonna start with the taxpayer funds. We're gonna start. We're gonna start these funds for legal defense of illegals so that they could defend themselves. Well, no, I don't think they're gonna have a defense. They're gonna need a defense fund because they're gonna go into a vehicle. Vehicle. You're going to be driven away, you're going to be put on a plane, and you're going to be dropped off back where you came from. There's not going to be a need for legal defense, but these people need to be punished for what they've done and what they're going to try to do moving forward.
[01:00:00] Speaker A: And I think this is. This was a flaw of Trump in 2016, is that it gets painted as retribution, but it's not just retribution. I'm not a person that.
Revenge for revenge sake. Right. That doesn't get you any. The point is in it, in punishing these people that are openly defying the law or the people that went after you politically. Right. Like I said, Trump, these people try to bankrupt them. They tried to jail him. They ultimately tried to kill him. If you just say, we're just gonna let bygones be bygones, what you. What you are actually saying is you can do whatever you want to do without any kind of repercussion. So you talked about, like, raising children, Right. If you raise children that way, you. They're going to be terrible adults. Right? So ultimately, what you have to say is you have to have. In politics, like in how nations relate to one another, there has to be some sort of sense of mutually assured destruction, Right. That if you go after me, it's like in the Untouchables, if you send one of ours to the hospital. We're going to send one of yours to the morgue. Right. And that's the unfortunate reality that we find ourselves in, is if we don't punish these individuals who, who are not just some innocent bystanders, you're not going after some Democrats who voted the wrong way. You're going after people who openly tried to destroy your life, destroy our way of life, destroy our communities, and ultimately kill you. Then if you don't punish those people, you are setting an extremely dangerous precedent. And these people are gonna, only, the next opportunity they get, only escalate things even further.
[01:01:33] Speaker B: Well, it's just like the argument that people have over time, which is, well, you can't let people know about what happened with JFK because, oh, our institutions are so, so honorable and we don't want any doubt about them. Well, no, if the CIA killed Kennedy, which we're pretty certain that they were involved, then we need to know almost all those people are dead at this point. But the only way you get to the root of so many of these problems is when you start to bring out the truth. And if we just continue to suppress it, if we allow people who have openly and flaunted their breaking of laws, just like in the counting of. In Pennsylvania counting the votes, they have commissioners there that the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania said, you cannot count votes after election Day. And they said, we're going to do it anyway. They should be in prison right now. The minute they counted the first vote and added it to the tally, those people should have been in prison. Those are the kind of things that need to happen to keep that from continuing to be the way these people operate in the future.
[01:02:34] Speaker A: And also understanding that the Democrats would have never let that fly. Right. If that was in a Republican state, you'd have the feds at their doorstep. Right.
[01:02:41] Speaker B: You, they protests outside their homes. Yeah, yeah.
[01:02:45] Speaker A: They would not be. They would not be left alone. So all that is to say we, we hope and pray and we need to push the Trump administration and our Republican officials in a certain direction, because if we don't, this is the future that we're going to have. And I think that's ultimately where we have to take on some of that responsibility and say, we're not just going to sit back and say, this is 4D chess. This is. This is. We just got to trust the. Or anything. That's all crap. We need to be as hard on our Republicans, as on our conservative leaders, as we are on the left. And if we do that, we'll probably wind up in a much better position than we are in now. But I want to get into a story that another story that has kind of dominated the news cycle because of, I guess it's absurdity, but obviously this being one of the.
The core issues of our time. And this is the Washington Post with a meteoric rise. Transgender lawmaker to make history in Congress. Delaware state legislator Sarah McBride won her get addressed that in a second momentous bid for the US House this week, declaring, our democracy is big enough for all of us.
Sarah McBride, formerly Tim McBride, is a man masquerading as a woman who is the first transgender in Congress.
This individual from Delaware has sparked a lot of debate, not really among people, because average people don't have these types of debates. It's pretty obvious to about 80% of people where we would line up on a man using the woman's restroom. But there's the, the reason that this has kind of hit the news is there's the battle over bathrooms that has taken place over several years. And if you read this story in 2015, if this was something that happened in 2015, I think that's what's jarring is that the pace which things have escalated where this would have been totally unthinkable in 2015. Just a few years ago, if we would have just said, there's a man who dresses up as a woman and they got elected to Congress. What the hell are you talking about? And now we are in a situation where we're having a debate, debate in Congress about whether or not this man should be allowed to use the women's restroom. I want to take a step back from that and kind of talk about the transgender issue just briefly from a bigger picture, because we're told so often this isn't the Hill to die on. It's not that big of an issue. Just let people do whatever they want. But I think the reason the transgender issue has blown up as big as it has is because the transgender issue issue is defining of our era because it is sanity versus insanity. Right? That is legitimately what the transgender issue is all about.
It is a hill worth dying on. Because if you can't defend sanity itself, if you can't say that a man who has an unfortunate, severe mental illness, who needs help, who needs love, who needs guidance, if you can't say that that man shouldn't be in the bathroom. Bathroom with a girl, with a child, with an adult woman, whoever, then I really can't take any of your other opinions seriously because it shows that you have such a flawed worldview that I don't need a study, I don't need a scientist, I don't need anybody to tell me, well, actually, if you look at the science of this and that, forget you. I know the. I know what is right. I know what is wrong. I know what truth is. I don't need my lot. My eyes aren't lying to me. I know that the, the person in a dress with an Adam's apple and broad shoulders is not a woman. And the deep voice. So I guess ultimately what this issue kind of shows is how far we've gotten where, how far we need to pull society back. Where we're having debates, first of all, we have a lawmaker with a severe mental illness. We have a lot of those. But one that has a very open severe mental illness that was elected to Congress, one that's a problem that any other time in history this person would have been committed to a place where they were given help and now they're being championed as kind of almost the face of their party in many ways. And I think it shows what we're really up against, where it's not just we have disagreements with people on tax policy or entitlements or how we should limit abortion or any of these different things. We're having, having basic arguments about genitalia and basic scientific facts and biology and just things that we've known as human beings for thousands of years.
[01:07:25] Speaker B: During the Obama years, when gay marriage became the law of the land, there were all those, there was those that argued that it was going to be a slippery slope and the people on the side of pro gamers would know it's just love is love.
And we're just, it's just we want them to be able to. And by the way, there were still certain rights, certain states had certain rights for people that were in, you know, same sex unions and things like that. Right.
And so no, it was we want marriage. And so it started with that and then it so rapidly progressed from there because now it was. And that's what I believed at the time was. And so many people was, it doesn't end here.
[01:08:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Because, well, you were called crazy for that. You're saying, oh, you're just, you're, you're just a Christian alarmist that none of this stuff is going to just people just want to be able to have the exact same rights as everybody else throughout the fact that you were redefining an entire institution that had been defined one way for thousands of years. And the dangers of all that comes with that.
The argument was, there's no such thing as slippery slope. This is just one thing. And everybody knew where this was going to lead. Everybody like us knew where this was going to lead. And we've been proven right every step of the way.
[01:08:36] Speaker B: Well, and then you go get into the transgender thing where, you know, this isn't just about somebody wanting to be a different gender. Because so much of this, the studies that are linked to people with wanting to be transgender is that the suicide rates are incredibly high.
[01:08:53] Speaker A: These aren't like they're higher than any other group ever.
[01:08:55] Speaker B: Most of the recent school shootings are by young people who consider themselves transgender. They're going through incredible pain because of their mental illness and what's going on in their lives. And so all of a sudden, these kind of things happen. There's a very significant percentage of transgenders that are linked to pedophilia. And so then now you see that's trying to. There are. There are a handful of people that are trying to mainstream pedophilias. That's just a persuasion. Right. And so that's.
[01:09:23] Speaker A: Where do you think it starts when you put a grown man dressed as a woman that. Do you ever see them going to nursing homes and reading to elderly folks? That you only see them going to libraries and reading to toddlers. Right. There is something. Something deeply, deeply.
And everybody knows it. Right. You look at these images and you know that there is not a person that isn't attracted to minors, doesn't have pedophilic tendencies that would put themselves in that position or put themselves in that spotlight that way.
And again, in any time of history, we just would have inherently known this.
[01:10:00] Speaker B: No. And the parents that bring their children to those things, clearly you have a lot of same, same sex marriages, particularly with men. You have when they're, you know, as you said earlier, abducting children. Pay. Buying children.
[01:10:14] Speaker A: Stripping them from their natural mother.
[01:10:15] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:10:16] Speaker A: And purchasing them.
[01:10:17] Speaker B: But yeah, they're basically. It's like buying them off of ebay.
[01:10:20] Speaker A: It's human trafficking.
[01:10:21] Speaker B: Yes. And there is a lot of, you know, things that happen in those households that are continuing to come out where they weren't just buying them because they wanted children.
[01:10:28] Speaker A: Well, most male couples, they almost exclusively adopt male children almost exclusively.
[01:10:35] Speaker B: So we don't need to go too much more deep down that. But it's not just us making these kinds of observations ourselves or a couple random people on Twitter. These are the kind of studies that are coming out. These are. These are Big numbers. But it all started from our society starting to be more and more permissive of immorality. Where in previous versions of our society, it just would have never. It would have never been okay again. It would have been, how do we help these people? Their families would have been trying to take care of them. Now their families are letting them cut off their privates.
[01:11:03] Speaker A: And it's not just. And it's not like this stuff came out of nowhere. This stuff has happened all throughout history, obviously, that we know. But in times when society was sane, was structured, was thriving, these things were, at the very least, they were done in the shadows. They weren't mainstreamed like they are now. But to kind of where you were going with that, we're always hit over the head with. You don't have empathy. You're not coming to this from a point of love. If you just loved these people, they'd stop killing themselves. If you just affirmed them, they'd stop hurting themselves. They'd stop this, they'd stop that one. That's. That's like an abusive relationship where the girlfriend says, if you break up with me, I'm going to kill myself. Right? That's, that's how they manipulate you to say, you know, there's that saying that they in within the transgender community, to these parents, would you rather. Would you rather have a dead son or daughter that's alive? Right. Then they manipulate a lot of these parents to think that they have to go along with their child that is obviously struggling. But we have this whole empathy argument, and it's like every other issue where I've talked about an immigration where empathy, in that situation, we're talking about love and empathy. We're always told by the left is you just let all these people through the border and you let them run wild and do whatever they want. Real empathy is making sure a Lake and Riley never happens again. Real empathy is making sure that women and children, children can't even live in an environment where it is possible for them to be raped and killed by an illegal immigrant. Real empathy is making sure that these children aren't being put on these perilous voyages where many of them die or are maimed for life. Real empathy is making sure that these children and women and men too, can't be used as drug mules and by these coyotes and these people. That's real empathy, Empathy. And when it comes to this issue, if you had a loved one who was telling you the television is talking to me, or I have voices in my head or any of these things that are obviously not true, you would say we need to get you some help, right? I'm going to be there with you, I'm going to help you, I'm going to support you, we're going to get you the help you need mentally, emotionally, spiritually, physically, whatever the case might be. And that would be, if we really wanted to help these people, stop them from killing themselves, stop them from going down this path path, we would get them real help. So at any other time in history, we would have. And that's why you're seeing this rate of them killing themselves. And because we're affirming a lie that is so damaging to their mind, body and soul that it is driving. And you look at after affirmation and after their surgery processes, nothing changes from a suicide standpoint, Nothing changes from a self harm standpoint. So these people are obviously deeply distressed, even beyond, beyond their outward, you know, transgender identity.
[01:13:57] Speaker B: Well, as human beings, we have certain core needs that we really try and latch onto. And so many of us at certain points in our life really go overboard trying to achieve what it takes to fulfill those. And so it's not like it's not food and water and air, we need those things, but things like significance, right? And so they have this desperate need to be significant. And all of a sudden, when social media saying, I can get attention if I dye my hair blue or if I have piercings or these tattoos, and all of a sudden when that becomes a little bit more normalized, it's like, okay, what's the next step? Right? So if I go out and I have a beard, but I'm wearing a dress, well, I'm going to have eyeballs on me all the time. And so there's this desperate need to fill that void. And we as human beings, we all have those voids in some way or another, we try to fill them. And as we get older, we really recognize pretty quickly that most of the things that we try to fill those with, they don't work. The problem with this is the void they're trying to fill all of a sudden then maims them for life. It changes who they are. It destroys who they are. And so just like we've talked about before is so many of the stories that try to get suppressed about people who really regret having abortions and what it does to them long term is the same thing here. There's countless stories of people who had, you know, young people who their parents took them to have their privates chopped off all of a sudden they're on all sorts of drugs. And now they said, I don't want that anymore. But now it's too late. And so that's where you run into so many of those suicides. It's because they've gone through it and they recognize that their need for significance was not fulfilled by what, what they thought it would be. But now they're trapped. There's these permanent changes and they can't go back and, and you can't erase what's been done to them. And then the evil, obviously, of which these doctors prey on these situations because it's all about money.
[01:15:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:15:33] Speaker B: In the mo. In. At the end of the day, it's how many people can I mutilate? Because I'm going to be able to pay my bills and go on vacations and this and that. It's not just, oh, I, that's, that's, it's not empathy.
[01:15:44] Speaker A: Yeah. And every, every, every major hospital system engages in it.
[01:15:49] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:15:50] Speaker A: Because they know it's a cash cow.
So getting back into Sarah McBride, Tim McBride, this transgender individual who's in Congress, obviously if you've been paying attention to the news at all, you've seen the battle over the bathroom where this individual wants to use the women's bathroom even though they're a man. You've seen Mike Johnson initially coming out there. At first the speaker of the House saying, I don't really want to get into it where you respect everybody, blah, blah, blah. Then he got major blowback for that because if we're not going to stand up for basic sanity as a party, we're not a legitimate party. He went out there, ultimately said, men are going to use the men's room. Women's are, women are going to use the women's room. A man can't become a woman. A woman can't become a man. Very clear statement, very non controversial statement to the vast majority of people. Obviously he was dragged through the mud for it, but a very basic statement that every human would have made for all of human history up until about five minutes ago.
But at the center of this battle has been Nancy Mace, who is an individual, she's a Republican out of South Carolina who, a congressman who always finds a way to insert herself into the spotlight. She is very much a person who loves the camera, who loves being out there, and an individual who is personally one of my least favorite members of Congress for a variety of reasons. But I want to get into this specifically because she's been kind of the champion of this movement of you know, there's videos of her putting, you know, no men allowed, you know, taping it over the women's room. And she's making lots of great. Everything she's saying about this specific issue she's correct on, right? Because this is a very obvious issue, that her and her fellow colleagues should be allowed to use the women's bathroom without the fear of having a man or seeing a penis or anything like that. It just, it should never even enter the equation. That's obviously all true, but where I have an issue with Nancy Mace is her life, her career and her ideology has paved the way for exactly what's playing out right now. So there's this tweet from Nancy Mace. This was on November 19, when a lot of this was kind of at its peak. She tweeted, this is so strange to me. 25 years ago, I was celebrated as the first woman to graduate from a formerly all male military college. Today I'm being attacked as a bigot for fighting for women's rights. The radical left has lost its mind. Now, obviously the radical left has lost its mind that that portion is correct.
She was the first. Nancy Mace was the first woman to graduate from the Citadel, a formerly all military, all male military college.
Yet she fails to understand the fact that her, among others who were part of this litigation process that sued the Citadel right to dismantle their all male space, she fails to realize that her going in and saying this, this space is now mine, right? She went into a male only space that had been male dominated, male only for generations and generations. She went in and said, no, this is mine. This is a women's space too. You can't have a male only space. You can't have a men's space. She went in and destroyed a man's space. You're seeing this across different professions. You're seeing it in men's clubs, the Boy Scouts, right? You're seeing it among sports in this forceful push to get women involved in every single male space. And so what's frustrating for me when I look at people like Nancy Mace who are feminists, right? They self proclaimed feminists is they want the carousel to stop with them, right? As soon as it gets uncomfortable for them, as soon as their space is threatened, then it's too much. But as long as they are getting what they want by taking away the men's spaces, that's good. It's good to take away men's spaces. It's bad to take away women's spaces. And we've so lost A society to understanding that men need men spaces, women need women's spaces, that we're different as genders, we are different, we think differently, we act differently, generally speaking. And those are not only good things, but essential things to society. And it's what makes our society function and what makes men and women great as individuals. People like Nancy Mace have been throwing out all of those things, and now when it comes back to bite them, they have the audacity to complain and make themselves the center of attention. So that's. That's really my complaint. Complaint with people like Nancy Mace is as soon as that snowball or that slippery slope, right. They're on the slippery slope. They're going face first on their toboggan. But as soon as they get to their stop, they say, oh, I want to stop it right here. But that's not how this works.
[01:20:27] Speaker B: The problem with people like her and her specifically, is that she has made most of her life about her. Yeah, she's the one that wants to be in front of the camera. It's all about what's good for her. And so this is a woman who went to the prayer breakfast. Breakfast and was going to be one of the speakers there. And one of the first things she does when she's introducing herself is to basically brag that she lives with her fiance and that he wanted her to stay so that they could sleep together before she left for the prayer breakfast in the morning.
[01:20:57] Speaker A: In the morning, she said that she was going to be late. Unfortunately, they couldn't have sex together that morning because he was about to. She was going to be late to the prayer breakfast.
[01:21:05] Speaker B: Yeah. So clearly this is not a woman who thinks very deeply into, you know, what she says and does. But at the same time, it goes back to anybody like this, where we've become this group of people who. I'm not going to put myself in this category. I know that you're not, but it's, look at me, pay attention to me. I need again, go back to that significance, which is she has made everything about her so she wouldn't even care to think about what you're saying, but your entire path paved the way for this. You did exactly what you say you hate now. And both of them are wrong, by the way.
[01:21:42] Speaker A: Right.
[01:21:42] Speaker B: You know, it's not that she was right and this is wrong or this is right. And that was. They're. They're all wrong because it was trying to force certain social norms. This isn't like fighting for civil rights.
[01:21:51] Speaker A: Right.
[01:21:51] Speaker B: This was taking the Military, which is a well oiled machine that operates in a certain way to protect us from takeovers of hostile nations.
[01:21:59] Speaker A: And its success is based on. On male predispositions, essentially.
[01:22:07] Speaker B: And so, again, it doesn't just pave the way for this bathroom issue. It paves the way for transgenders in the military. All of a sudden, our military structure has been totally perverted in a way that all of a sudden just starts letting everybody in and then changes the dynamic. And now we're not the kind of fighting force that we need to be. But these are the kind of dominoes that start this procession. And just like we talked about about with the transgender issue, going back to when gay marriage was legalized, it's not this slow progression. Once you start the first domino of some of these things, things move so rapidly, and it's almost impossible to stop its descent.
[01:22:41] Speaker A: Yeah. And to add on top of this, Nancy Mace has throughout this process been boasting about the fact of we support gay marriage. This is her words. We support gay marriage and voted for the Respect for Marriage act twice. In another tweet, she says, I strongly support LGBTQ rights. No one should be discriminated against. Religious liberty, gay rights, transgender equality can all coexist. So specifically with the marriage issue, again, she fails to connect the dots. She failed fails to connect the dots that through her support for gay marriage, specifically, which totally dissolved the institution of marriage, Right? It turned the institution of marriage, which had been for thousands of years, the union of one man and one woman, and it turned it into essentially two random people who decide to cohabitate together, can sign a piece of paper and make them legal legally have some consequences if they separate. Right? That's essentially what marriage became. And what it did also is it dissolved. It muddied the waters. It removed any kind of uniqueness or essential nature of men and women. Right? Because if a man can become a wife, if a woman can become a husband, if any of these things could, then what is gender at all? What does it really matter how you identify if the institution of marriage itself doesn't have any special meaning or special essential nature between men and women? So her support for all of the issues that she supported of dismantling men's spaces, of the destruction of traditional marriage, all of a sudden she sees that a man dressed up as a woman wants to use her bathroom, and she's shocked by it, she's appalled by it, but that's where it has to stop. But what people like her need to realize is that as soon as that ball gets rolling, it does not stop. And that's where you have the whole discussion of there's a whole lgb, but you gotta cut off the T part. Well, you can't, you can't. Those things are essentially together because as soon as you blur those lines, then nothing matters.
[01:24:47] Speaker B: I think at the end of the day, it comes down to when we have a moral society.
Everything lines up the way that it should. Almost everything, because we're humans and it's never going to be perfect. But there have been time periods in the United States and in the world at large where there were golden ages, where there were times of thriving. And that was always aligned with faith. It was always aligned with a time of morality. And whether you look at Rome or any other place, they're an easy example is when morality went out the window. When the perversion of so many different areas of human life and interaction. English Empire, French Empire, it always follows the same patterns. And so it's not just about Christianity per se. Right. But it's about what kind of society are we going to be. And when you start to allow certain things, there's certain truths that if they're not upheld, the dam breaks and we run into the situation that we have and now where so much of our society is then trying to super glue the pieces of the dam back together as the water is just pouring in. It's not to say that we can't circle back and eventually rebuild that dam, but there's a certain way that that structure needs to be built. Built. There's proven track record of how it works throughout all of human history. And that needs to be the format of what we follow moving forward. Yeah.
[01:26:02] Speaker A: And I think ultimately what you're saying is society, it needs a clear vision of right and wrong. Right there. There's been no successful society in human history that didn't have a moral vision. That's not to say that there, there is it. Because throughout all of our history, throughout the United States, there's been a debate over that, of what's right and what's wrong. Because we as human beings, we are limited in our capacity to truly understand all of these things. We can have a good general idea and there's lots of things like this where it's black and white. I know it's not a good thing for a man to use the women's bathroom. I don't need any kind of religious document or anything to tell me that. I just know it. Naturally, as a human being, there are certain things that we know Naturally. And I think ultimately every society that has thrived has embraced those things that we understand natural right to be the case, and that has set the structure for society to be successful within. Because without some sort of guardrails of right and wrong, of justice, of morality, of any of these things, then people in their natural nature will totally go off the rails and just devolve into licentiousness and chaos. And that's what we're seeing today. And ultimately why what I think is going to be a crucial aspect of the Trump years is not saying that we are going to go back tomorrow to being a puritanical nation, kind of how we were founded, but that we need to have some semblance of. Yes. There are times where these social issues and the desires of human beings go a little bit too far.
[01:27:36] Speaker B: Yeah. I would just to wrap up this segment, I would just say, like you said, it's not about being puritans. It's not about we, we can't go back.
[01:27:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:27:47] Speaker B: But what we can do is put the guard rails in place to ensure that we don't keep going off the road.
[01:27:52] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. I think that's a perfect place to cap it. Jonathan, thanks for joining me again.
[01:27:57] Speaker B: Thank you. Good to be back.
[01:27:58] Speaker A: Hopefully see you next time.
Now it is time for today's Uncomfortable Truth.
All right. For today's Uncomfortable Truth is a topic I was almost hesitant to share. I was almost hesitant to bring the video up that I'm about to play because for me, it was something that was so disturbing, was so upsetting in many ways. And what I want to show you is this video that came out recently of ultrasound of a D and C abortion. Now, if you are somebody who finds yourself very squeamish, or if you're somebody who's already very pro life already, I would forgive you for looking away for this portion or not watching this video. But if you're somebody who is pro choice in really any sense, I would encourage you to watch this short video that I'm about to play for you here.
Now, this D and C abortion. What you're seeing is an ultrasound of this child in the womb. And you're seeing what is essentially a vacuum cleaner being put into the womb to suck out this child who is writhing and kicking and clawing and trying to stay in the womb.
The reason that I show this video is to share the uncomfortable truth that if you are pro abortion, this is what you are supporting so often. And I'm not saying this in a way to talk down to you or to critic, even to criticize you, because we are so often we talk about abortion in a way that you would think it's sometimes just a magic wand that we wave and the fetus is gone. That we think it's just. We're told so often it's just a clump of cells. It's no different. Different than maybe getting your appendix removed or even something that's a medical procedure that's much simpler than that. But what you're seeing in this image, in this video is a child that can feel pain. This is up to 13 weeks that this abortion is done, still in the first trimester. But what you're seeing is a child that is feeling fear, that is feeling pain, that is scratching and clawing to stay alive, that is obviously a sentient person.
And in order to have an intelligent and thoughtful and meaningful conversation about this issue moving forward, we have to know what abortion really is. We have to know what's really going on in a DNC abortion.
A suction or aspiration abortion, as it's called, is performed in clinic. Prior to the abortion, the woman should receive an exam that includes an ultrasound in order to confirm that she is pregnant and diagnose any complicating factors. An abortionist uses metal rods or medication to dilate the woman's cervix and gain access to the uterus where the baby resides. The abortionist then inserts a suction catheter to vacuum the child from the womb. The suction machine has a force of approximately 10 to 20 times the force of a household vacuum cleaner. The procedure is completed as the abortionist uses a sharp metal device called a curate to empty the remains of the child from the mother's uterus. So oftentimes, this child is ripped limb from limb with arms, detaching organs, detaching heads, detaching, and there is residue of that child in the womb. And I share this because for me, this was so disturbing to see. It was the first time I had seen something like this. It was so disturbing to see that it made me question that if anybody truly saw this, saw the horrors of what goes on, this is a horror beyond any comprehension. A man made horror beyond comprehension. Comprehension that if we truly see what's going on, that this, we're told in the first trimester, it's just a clump of cells. Just flush it out. This is a child. This is a person who knows fear, who knows pain.
And if we're going to return to a society that thrives, that respects life, that respects everyone that creates a social community of love and respect.
These are the issues that we're going to have to tackle and address and be honest about.
So that's my uncomfortable truth for today. Thank you for joining me here on man in the Arena. We'll see you next time.
[01:32:28] Speaker B: If I can change and you can change.
[01:32:37] Speaker A: Everybody can change.
